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The Rebel.
p.s your posts have great wealth.
i believe all our worst nightmare are believing money will make our life's complete.
i am not talking about money providing life's comforts, but i am mortified that contentment and happiness always requires " more money"..ummm i need a window cleaner, a flashy car and a 50inch t.v screen to be happy.
money...well in my opinion we need money integrity to be happy, but it seems such a waste of life to search for the making of money more than ....well what i mean "hey" most of us have more money than most, and would the making or having more money really make you happier?.
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The Rebel.
p.s your posts have great wealth.
i believe all our worst nightmare are believing money will make our life's complete.
i am not talking about money providing life's comforts, but i am mortified that contentment and happiness always requires " more money"..ummm i need a window cleaner, a flashy car and a 50inch t.v screen to be happy.
money...well in my opinion we need money integrity to be happy, but it seems such a waste of life to search for the making of money more than ....well what i mean "hey" most of us have more money than most, and would the making or having more money really make you happier?.
Ttdtt " ....it's the persons lack of responsibility to handle it"
The Rebel, I agree, sadly I believe many who EARN money create money problems for themselves because they don't live within their means.
So to clarify my point, I am rich whilst my family and I have health, ( health is wealth) but money is ....this is where my wife and I disagree, she loves and has earnt the right to spend it. Personally I am happier in my house, with my wife's cooking ( ok not politically correct, but she is a better cook than I ) and playing football in the garden with my boy. Anyway for Easter we are going on a cruise, we are seeing Elton John in concert in November all thanks to my wife, who likes to spend " our" money. But personally my happiness could do without the cruise and certainly with out the Elton John concert...so anyway it's how we are motivated by money, but if you have it, I think my wife's point is spend it, and mine is I'd rather stay at home anyway.
The ( boring) Rebel.
the fact is we could never talk about politics or of use toward political issues as witnesses now we can and we can disagree without being disagreeable .
I am sure a % of ex-jws are passionate about politics, but I am not sure it is such a blanket rule. As for being able to disagree without being disagreeable, it's a testimony to many here that threads on God and Politics are debated in an agreeable way, but I have noted the threads can become disagreeable and at times rather unpleasant.
The Rebel.
i believe all our worst nightmare are believing money will make our life's complete.
i am not talking about money providing life's comforts, but i am mortified that contentment and happiness always requires " more money"..ummm i need a window cleaner, a flashy car and a 50inch t.v screen to be happy.
money...well in my opinion we need money integrity to be happy, but it seems such a waste of life to search for the making of money more than ....well what i mean "hey" most of us have more money than most, and would the making or having more money really make you happier?.
What is money?
Possibly money is dots on a computer screen?
What do I mean by that?
I mean I have money, and I like to spend money, but if I want to make money I have always believed I need to have it invested in something that will make the money while I do nothing. This is an interesting concept. For myself I have always chosen property. I feel this is a safe investment, and the purchase price will double every ten years. Being fortunate to receive a rental return on the investment can be another bonus. I also think to transfer money between countries is a fairy safe way of making money. The way the English £ has fluctiorated in recent years in the region of 40% between other currencies is amazing.
Anyway that's why I define money as dots on a computer screen. The privalige of having money in the pocket to purchase materialistic possessions is great, but in my opinion it should never be a substitute for quality time with family.
i noted recently I had a day out in London with the family and we visited many local attractions and got through a considerable about of money and I do mean a considerable amount of money. But the next day we did what I wanted to do and visited the " Tate" " The National" and " Portrait" gallery, we watched the street theatre, pickneted in St Jamses Park and marveled at the wild life , we also made a lovely movie as we walked around China Town, and Trafalger Square. This cost very little, and we all preferred the day.
But I agree life is more pleasurable when we have money to spend, and although my wife thinks the I money spend with my boy supporting our football team extravagant, I think the money she spends on her beauty treatment and dining out extravegent. Neither would deny each other this extravegence, it's simply nice that we appreciate how lucky we are when so many in the world simply by being born in other lands don't have this opportunity.
I have noted my wife gets a lot of satisfaction with her voluntarily work with the poor on Sunday, and I get a lot of happiness that she is now doing this than attending meetings at the K.H.
Anyway, I hope each poster has adequate money to be a little extravegent, and if you are fortunate to have a lump sum I would always advise investing it on a deposit for a property, or paying off the mortgage. This will allow you to have more spendable money and less stress in the future.
The Rebel.
i believe all our worst nightmare are believing money will make our life's complete.
i am not talking about money providing life's comforts, but i am mortified that contentment and happiness always requires " more money"..ummm i need a window cleaner, a flashy car and a 50inch t.v screen to be happy.
money...well in my opinion we need money integrity to be happy, but it seems such a waste of life to search for the making of money more than ....well what i mean "hey" most of us have more money than most, and would the making or having more money really make you happier?.
Millionaire Matchmaker. If you have seen the T.V show, Women love money, men love sex..sorry the only true and brave way to be truthful is to NOT watch this crap. It's worse than the W.T....
The Rebel.
i believe all our worst nightmare are believing money will make our life's complete.
i am not talking about money providing life's comforts, but i am mortified that contentment and happiness always requires " more money"..ummm i need a window cleaner, a flashy car and a 50inch t.v screen to be happy.
money...well in my opinion we need money integrity to be happy, but it seems such a waste of life to search for the making of money more than ....well what i mean "hey" most of us have more money than most, and would the making or having more money really make you happier?.
Thanks for the reply Simon, which I agree with. More intersting is how have you found happiness not pursuing money?For many of us it's time spent with our child ( at least that's my happiness) others become writers, painters, cooks, voluntary workers...anyway responses appreciated.
The Rebel.
i believe all our worst nightmare are believing money will make our life's complete.
i am not talking about money providing life's comforts, but i am mortified that contentment and happiness always requires " more money"..ummm i need a window cleaner, a flashy car and a 50inch t.v screen to be happy.
money...well in my opinion we need money integrity to be happy, but it seems such a waste of life to search for the making of money more than ....well what i mean "hey" most of us have more money than most, and would the making or having more money really make you happier?.
I believe all our worst nightmare are believing money will make our life's complete. I am not talking about money providing life's comforts, but I am mortified that contentment and happiness always requires " more Money"..ummm I need a window cleaner, a flashy car and a 50inch T.V screen to be happy.
Money...well in my opinion we need money integrity to be happy, but it seems such a waste of life to search for the making of money more than ....well what I mean "hey" most of us have more money than most, and would the making or having more money really make you happier?
The Rebel.
posted on friends :-) anyway i hope everyone agrees even in disagreement, the discussion can be fruitful.
personally i usually find the atheism views more compelling than the christian view point, however i value both insights and conversations when the comments are respectful.. as it's coming up to eater, could i therefore pose the question to christians can you offer compelling evidence for the resurrection of christ?
evidence is a fact or a set of facts, or maybe i should rephrase my question " the resurrection is reasonable to hold to because of reasonable evidence that can be submitted for that conclusion" .
Surprised by the luck of response to the thread. Why?
Because I assumed each poster here had at one time heard the stories of " The Resurrection of Christ" and had been led to believe. Why were we so awestruck by this story of " Christ rising from the dead"?
Surely I am not wrong the cavalry must come charging over the hill with evidence that this event happened? If not at least tell me why the " Easter Bunny" is mentioned in this wonderful Easter story?
The Rebel.
posted on friends :-) anyway i hope everyone agrees even in disagreement, the discussion can be fruitful.
personally i usually find the atheism views more compelling than the christian view point, however i value both insights and conversations when the comments are respectful.. as it's coming up to eater, could i therefore pose the question to christians can you offer compelling evidence for the resurrection of christ?
evidence is a fact or a set of facts, or maybe i should rephrase my question " the resurrection is reasonable to hold to because of reasonable evidence that can be submitted for that conclusion" .
I am not a historian, and neither have I looked in to the contemporary primary source writings from the time period of Jesus, but I believe a point of contention is as " divergent" mentions the lack of documentation outside the bible about the resurrection ? Can anyone offer any outside documentation in support of the resurrection?
Also reading the bible versions it seems to me one has to subjectively pick and choose what passages to take literally and what not, I.e Matthew 27v52 -and the dead saints rising, from there tombs and entering Jerusalem. Which as " Witness My Fury" noted is a passage difficult to take tliterally?
However what I would like to gain from this thread, is to be converted by the arguments that Jesus rose from the dead, and evidence for the resurrection is required.
The Rebel.
posted on friends :-) anyway i hope everyone agrees even in disagreement, the discussion can be fruitful.
personally i usually find the atheism views more compelling than the christian view point, however i value both insights and conversations when the comments are respectful.. as it's coming up to eater, could i therefore pose the question to christians can you offer compelling evidence for the resurrection of christ?
evidence is a fact or a set of facts, or maybe i should rephrase my question " the resurrection is reasonable to hold to because of reasonable evidence that can be submitted for that conclusion" .
Posted on friends :-) Anyway I hope everyone agrees even in disagreement, the discussion can be fruitful. Personally I usually find the atheism views more compelling than the Christian view point, however I value both insights and conversations when the comments are respectful.
As it's coming up to Eater, could I therefore pose the question to Christians can you offer compelling evidence for the resurrection of Christ? Evidence is a fact or a set of facts, or maybe I should rephrase my question " the resurrection is reasonable to hold to because of reasonable evidence that can be submitted for that conclusion"
Please note reasonable people can so believe, other reasonable people may not so believe, however respect for posters age, education and faith appreciated. Now boxing gloves on :-)